September 23 2024

Membership Dues Redux

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A friend of mine recently called me the Girl Scout version of Cassandra of Troy. I can’t think of a better description, especially lately. So once again, I bring you my ramblings. This time over a topic of which I am well familiar. After the Farthest North lawsuit was finally settled back in 2021, I kicked back and felt like I could finally retire from discussing membership dues.

Wrong.

A few weeks ago, the National Board called a special meeting of the National Council to raise membership dues. It will be held on October 19th. At the 2020 National Council Session (NCS), 83% of the National Council voted in favor of giving the National Board authority over membership dues. However, the National Council also passed an additional proposal that limited any raise in dues to no more than 25% within a triennium period without a vote of the National Council. So with this special session, dues could possibly be raised a substantial amount depending on how the National Council votes.

Currently, annual membership dues for both girls and adults are $25. They haven’t been raised since MY2017, so I don’t think a bump up in price is shocking news to anyone. The question is – how much should they go up?

If you look at the special session proposals themselves (Proposal 1 and Proposal 2), you might wonder why there’s a blank listed instead of an amount. Something called a “fill in the blank” motion to amend will be used during the session. Instead of using the traditional way of striking, inserting, and substituting when it comes to amendments in parliamentary procedure, delegates can offer any amount under the sun. According to the draft of the Standing Rules, at least four suggestions have to be on the floor before a motion to close suggestions can be made. You can read more about how this will work by checking out the Standing Rules draft. If you’re a National Delegate, you should also participate in the parliamentary procedure webinars on the delegate website.

The National Board is going to start with a price tag of $85 for girls and $45 for adults, so those two amounts will definitely be in play when it comes to voting. When the news broke last week, there was an avalanche of shock and awe from folks across social media reacting to a possible 240% increase in girl annual dues. It’s taken me a little while to catch up because I was busy with an event over the weekend plus I had to gather up the energy to write this post considering how weary I am of the membership dues topic after all of the writing I did about the FN lawsuit and the lost cause of campaigning against the 2020 NCS membership dues proposals.

So what are my thoughts? Well, first of all, I’m not going to rehash how we got to this point* because I don’t think it would be constructive, and like I said, I’m tired. If you’ve read my previous post about money, you know that GSUSA desperately needs the additional funds. But to get to the point quickly, I think raising dues to $85 for girls would be a huge mistake. Instead of repeating what others have already said in various forums, I’m going to raise a few issues that I haven’t seen anyone else bring up.

I am not sure if we truly realize how much our membership is subsidized. I have a feeling there’s a good chunk of memberships where the parent or guardian might not be totally sold on Girl Scouts, but $25 isn’t that much of a risk to their budget in the case it doesn’t work out, so they sign up anyway. Recruiting will become much harder at $85 for that reason alone. A higher price point will most definitely give parents pause if they’re not so sure, and recruiters will need to make a stronger case to persuade them to join Girl Scouts.

I believe that we could bump up to $40 or even $50 girl dues and the majority of folks would agree to it, albeit some begrudgingly (and you’ll always have that). But $85 is way too big of a jump. Is it really worth the additional $35 to risk alienating a huge chunk of our membership base? We are still struggling with rebuilding trust and as seen by the anger and outcry to the news, this will only make things worse. I predict that raising dues to $85 will eventually result in a 10 to 15% membership drop (and that’s being conservative).

Which brings me to my next point. If you read the Delegate Workbook and proposals, you’ll see that GSUSA and the National Board have promised a big enchilada plus a side of beans to entice National Delegates to vote for the highest dues raise possible. If you take a look at this table (that reminds me of cookie incentive levels), you’ll see what sorts of goodies are listed.  Additionally, the National Board passed three resolutions promising financial aid to councils, a scholarship fund, and incremental raises per year so that the increase wouldn’t hit all at once. These resolutions are dependent on the amount that is passed.

But here’s the thing. First of all, I like our current leadership. I really do. I’ve met some National Board members, and I like them, especially Noorain Khan, who is our National President. If I revealed how much I really like Noorain and how much I follow her, she’d probably think I was a stalker. I have also only heard good things about Bonnie B, our National CEO. And I do think they are sincere folks. But hearing on a webinar that we are waiting until next year to compare our IT costs to other organizations really took a lot of the wind out my confidence sails, especially considering we’re doing the study AFTER committing to $40 MILLION in upgrades on our IT platform next year. I would actually be more sympathetic if I knew that the $40 million was going toward a total teardown and rebuild not involving Salesforce, but I’m not privy to that level of information. I feel like we are being held hostage by these IT costs.

While I think our current leadership is sincere in what they’re saying in the Workbook, life happens, and people move on from their positions to other opportunities or for personal reasons. It will take years to deliver these incentives, and we’ll have a different set of National Board members in 2026. Who knows who will be on staff at GSUSA. What if they don’t agree with the resolutions made by the 2023-26 National Board? What if membership plummets more than anticipated and they come back and say that they can’t deliver what was promised due to a shortfall so financial aid for councils will only cover two years instead of five? There’s absolutely nothing the National Council, councils, or the membership can do to hold anyone accountable for commitments made by the 2023-26 National Board and current GSUSA staff. Also note that the chart says these incentives are possible – they aren’t promises. So nothing is guaranteed.

Plus, once the 2026 NCS is held, the National Board and GSUSA can raise dues up to 25% if they wish between the years of 2026 and 2029. Who’s to say we’ll stay at $85 if that amount is decided upon by the National Council at this special session? Some will argue that the National Council should approve the higher cost because the National Board and GSUSA will raise dues anyway so we might as “get something out of it.” Again, there are no guarantees for what they’re saying they can deliver, so I don’t feel like we should approve higher dues for promises that may or may not happen.

I also think $85 dues will be a deterrent to parents who sign their daughters up for summer camp or other events that are open to non-members. An additional $25 (or even $50) fee can be swallowed for summer camp, but not $85. Same with those councils who are hoping to build membership based on an event model (much like my Trailblazer group). An additional $25 or even $50 “fee” is within budget, but any more than that and you hit a price point for parents. If dues go higher than $50, I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually create a separate membership dues level that’s lower for Juliettes (independently registered girls) because I think we’ll eventually evolve from the troop model out of necessity.

You might have noticed that I haven’t brought up Proposal 2 which deals with adult dues. First, I think it’s a good idea to separate out girl and adult dues so that adult dues are lower. It takes some of the sting out of the increase. Is $45 a fair price for adults? Personally, I think if dues for adults go up that much that GSUSA should pay for the background check instead of the council or the member.

Do we need to raise dues? Yes, without a doubt. I am in complete agreement about that. While I realize our current leadership is trying to right the ship, our membership shouldn’t bear the burden of bad decision-making these past 15 years which put us in this position in the first place. That’s not fair to our membership base.

I have no idea how the National Council will vote. The 2020 NCS was a hard dose of reality for me on multiple levels. And as I stated last year, I left the 2023 NCS feeling like I didn’t fit in, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they pass $85 dues easily. A majority vote is all that’s needed for passage. But this is our organization’s governance structure, so we need to accept whatever decision is made whether we like it or not. Of course, that acceptance may mean a whole bunch of members walk out the door and some future girls might never join.

For those of you who are up in arms about this, I encourage you to carry this passion over to your local governance (if your council has voting delegates) or to apply to be a National Delegate when it comes time for it and actually get involved more than just talking about what to wear at the convention or what sightseeing trips you’re going to take. Too many people only get interested in governance when something affects them personally (like a dues raise or a camp sale), but they remain asleep when it’s something they think is “boring” and end up rubberstamping whatever is put in front of them. Voting decisions have consequences down the line. An apathetic membership base that only stirs when they’re hit in the wallet isn’t healthy for organizations.

The special session will be streamed to non-delegates, so follow GirlScoutGovernance.com to stay up to date for news. If you’re a National Delegate, continue to check the delegate website for your part.

*But if you do want to rehash how we got to this point, check out the Membership Dues History.

11 COMMENTS :

  1. By TiAnne Rios on

    My concerns about the increase is that many low income families can afford $25 but there is no way they have $85 discretionary funds to wile away in Girl Scout membership dues. And if a family has more than one girl, which happens with regularity, you are basically saying NO to lower socio-economic families because this move would make GIrl Scouts unaffordable. Not sure if you remember back, but as a young family, every dollar counts in the family budget. Is Girl Scouting now going to be an elitist organization? Is this a way to discriminate against

    Secondly, when families have three or more girls, charging $85 per girl is definitely unaffordable- especially because this money is due all at once, no payment plans available, as far as I know. How is this equitable? So a solution might be a siding scale down, $85 for the first girl, $50 for the 2nd and $25 for the 3rd and so on. Or perhaps capping it as a $100 for registration fees for a family.

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  2. By Cheryl on

    The delegates voted to allow the board on its own accord to raise dues up to 25% at a time. That’s on the delegates that year for giving away authority to regulate spending. (Don’t raise dues, AKA revenue, and thus spending gets throttled. Creative solutions should then endure.)

    Now, the board calls a special session to get approval for a this, that, or another raise in dues, each with shiny new things dangled like sugar plums.

    This +40% = $45. That +140% = $65. Or the other +240% = $85. Then remember, AFTER this increase, the board can alone, without member/delegate approval raise by 25% as it chooses.

    I hear $106 in 2026… at least it rhymes.

    Maybe it’s time to get back to the basics of scouting, in the woods using the patrol method. And a book. A good book. The internet is great and GSUSA has spent a gazillion dollars on a system poorly designed and with a rollout that is the poster child (case study) of what NOT to do in an enterprise implementation. While the internet is great, we forget the GS root purpose is leadership of people and that must be shaped before technology is leveraged as a tool.

    Delegates and council leadership teams got the organization into this mess by not demanding accountability of the board and staff. Can the National Council amend this motion to raise dues with more guard rails?

    Back to the book. The junk produced today and since 2009 is just that, junk. Our troops used the old books/badges from the 60s and 70s where real skills were covered. Yes, a bit behind in some areas but the basics were real and accurate. But that’s another rant.

    Hopefully we have astute delegates this time and they will exercise a rational and firm voice. I’d like to see all increases voted down and force the board and staff to dig itself out of the IT and excess salary hole and shift to leveraging all that revenue from the use of the brand to get right and get back to the basics.

    Now, let me see, where is that Samoa flavored chapstick and those Thin Mint flavored chocolate covered pretzels?

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    1. By Cyn on

      I agree with getting back to basics. I was so sad when my daughter joined just as the new materials came out. I ran our troop “vintage’ style using the methods I learned as a Girl Scout of the 1970/80s. Where leadership and proficiency badges were the focus. Now girls just dabble at learning things and journeys focus on activism vs leading others. Girl-led has really turned into girl-choice program. Girls need to learn how to lead others. Also, Girl Scouts began for older girls and eventually juniors and younger girls were added. We need to focus back on our older girls. Also, I’m in favor of us returning to being a uniformed organization so people recognize us when we are out in the community, that way we advertise ourselves!

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  3. By Aimee J Morgan on

    Our troop paid for renewals because even at $25 per girl we’d lose girls. We also didn’t charge meeting dues, and snacks and supplies usually came out of pocket. One the one hand, I’m glad Girl Scouts isn’t as expensive as Scouts (f/k/a Boy Scouts) to start, on the other, the cost of badge booklets and badges and all that jazz is ridiculous for what you get.

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  4. By Leslie Goodin on

    Wowzers!!! My thoughts exactly!!! I’ve been a delegate for 2020 and 2023! 2023 shocked me how little some major proposals were debated!! Love the what to wear remark!!! I’m so not for the increase of $85. It will devastate troops in our area. Adult fees?? Do you know how much time and money I give to my own troop, day camp, and su?! And now I need more. I am certain with how I’m voting.

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  5. By cathyf on

    An interesting governance point is that the model where we send more money to National with the promise that they will rebate some to councils severely undermines local control of councils. At the most benign end, is the one-size-fits-all problem that different councils look different — rural vs urban, etc. Some councils have successfully fundraised from their communities. On the other end is that it cushions councils from being accountable to their local members.

    We already have a system where councils are allowed but not required to charge additional membership dues. Many councils do not charge any extra dues, some charge more vs less.

    The rebates would make every council the same.

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    1. By Anonymous on

      I’m so curious if anyone knows what this means for Council Service Fees? If national dues are increased to $85, could a Council theoretically tack on an additional $85, bringing the total to $170 for a single girl??

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      1. By GSWAC-Amy (Post author) on

        Yes, according to the Blue Book, councils can add on a fee equal to the amount of annual dues. pg. 20 “A Girl Scout council shall not have the authority to establish any form of local council membership dues; however, Girl Scout councils may charge an annual council service fee for girl members, not to exceed the amount charged by GSUSA for annual membership dues.*

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  6. By Diane on

    I watched the video GSUSA put out, and I’m really struggling to believe they have cut all of the costs they can. The IT situation is maddening. But also, why are they still based in NYC? That seems like one of the least cost conscious cities you could pick in the country, and it’s not even a central location.

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  7. By Lisa Martin on

    How many girl and adult members have we had each year from 2012 to 2023 in each council/total? What percentage of members were on financial aid in each council for the last ten years? If membership dropped more than 2% in any one year (pandemic) did it bounce back? What percentage did membership drop after the last dues increase?

    I fear this large of an increase will have more girls joining Boy Scouts instead of Girl Scouts because Boy Scouts doesn’t cost as much overall and has less requirements for parents as there are more volunteers to spread the work around.

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