March 22 2016

Camp Mary Elizabeth’s History

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Camp Mary ElizabethFor those of you who are not familiar with it, Camp Mary Elizabeth is a Girl Scout camp located in Spartanburg, South Carolina.  It’s a neat little camp, and it has its own sweet charm.  It’s one out of only two urban Girl Scout camps in the United States.  I had my outdoor training there, and it’s where I took our troop camping for the first time. Our troop has participated in a few events there as well.  It’s got a lot of potential.  There’s also some drama in its past.  Maybe we could even consider it a soap opera!  But not one of those Telemundo novelas.  We wouldn’t know what was being said anyway.  ¡Qué terrible!

In January of 1947, Dr. W.S. Zimmerman left 28 acres in his will to the (then) Spartanburg Girl Scout council provided that the land always be called Camp Mary Elizabeth as a memorial to Dr. Zimmerman’s mother, Elizabeth Simpson Zimmerman, and her daughter, Mary Zimmerman Ward (Dr. Zimmerman’s sister).  A memorial marker would always have to remain on the property as well.  More acreage was added in 1952 and 1953. 

Here’s the announcement from the September 29th, 1946 issue of The Herald-Journal detailing the property and plans (click on the article to see full size):

9-29-1946 main article

There was a short blurb the next day summarizing the memorial:

9-30-1946 memorial article

CME got off to a quick start and refurbishments such as a playground and fields were added soon afterwards (from the June 26th, 1947 issue of the Herald-Journal):

6-28-1947 refurb

In 1951, seven more acres were purchased for a swimming pool according to an October 18th, 1951 article from the Herald-Journal:

10-18-1951 article swimming pool

In 1952, a crafts building was slated to be built.  Sleeping cabins were also supposedly in the works in 1952, but I didn’t find any kind of follow up to show that those ever came to fruition.  Currently CME has no kind of overnight sleeping arrangements other than camping sites or the large room of the lodge.  There’s a historical log cabin on the premises, but I don’t know its history.  If I find out more about it, I’ll add it to this blog post.  Addendum 8/11/16:  I wrote about it here.

4-18-52 article

I didn’t find any other major articles about CME between the early 1950’s and this one from 1978 (see below).   It seems in the interim, no improvements were made and CME fell into disrepair.  The swimming pool from the early 50s was condemned and the nature trails no longer existed.  In 1978, a major push was made to give CME a facelift. Other than the initial plans, many of these ideas never made it off the drawing board.  (If you know otherwise, please let me know via an email or by the comments section below).

1978 refurb

One thing CME does have are wildflowers – and lots of them!  I’ll post a list of them in another blog post (including the threatened dwarf-flowered heartleaf!) along with an accompanying article from 1978.

And then in 1999, the drama started.  Well, it might have started before that.  I’m just a third-party with no connections, and I’m just going by what I found in the media.  Additionally, let me preface by saying that I hope I’m not stirring up old emotions and feelings.  I’m just reporting what I’m reading in newspaper articles.  I’m sure there are many sides to this story depending on the person.

In 1999, the executive director and the board of the then Piedmont Area Council considered selling CME  in 1999 (among others that were sold eventually later on down the road).  Thankfully, the camp was spared after a shakeup in board leadership.  (Herald-Journal – July 14, 1999)  The aforementioned restrictions regarding the property being sold for non-Girl Scout business would have prevented the camp from being sold, but they were lifted when the Spartanburg County Foundation took over the title in 1952.   This restriction was added again in 2005 when the Foundation gave the title back to the Piedmont Area Council.  Or maybe not.  I’m not sure.

A new century began, and once again, hope sprang eternal that CME got a makeover.  Here’s an article from May 7th, 2000 of the Herald-Journal about what was done:

5-7-2000 refurb article

Since then, I am unsure as to what has been done for improvements.  The camp has so much potential, but after this look back, I feel like CME was always the bridesmaid but never the bride compared to other camps in the state.   Maybe one of these days it’ll get the TLC it deserves.  As has been the case in previous years, CME currently hosts summer day camps along with swim programs, so we know it can hold its own!

Stay tuned for a look at CME’s wildflowers at some point in the future!

5 COMMENTS :

  1. By Elizabeth Sheppard on

    I love hearing about Girl Scout camps. I hope this one is kept alive and well by the Girl Scouts in the area. I look forward to hearing about the plants that are there too! If I am very lucky, I will maybe be able to visit this camp in the future. It sounds great.

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  2. By Laura Kemp on

    I am 49 years old & learned to swim in the old pool when I was 6 years old. I was also there for Summer Camp the year the new pool opened. I loved CME & especially all of my swim instructors: Serita, Betsy, & Crystal (amazingly I still remember them). What I have often wondered is whatever became of the time capsule we buried out by the old pool during the year they filled it in. I have never heard another thing about it. It may still be out there. Still, CME will always hold fond memories of my childhood…lifetime friendships made, lessons learned, patches earned, and a multitude of songs

    Laura Kemp

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    1. By GS-Amy (Post author) on

      I’ll see what I can find out about the time capsule!

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  3. By Carol Jean A Zrinko on

    Learning some of this saddens me as a Camp ME alum from 1991-2002. I had no idea they tried to sell our home! I was a kid and teenager, I wasn’t keeping up with the politics. The camp has changed, the trails there now are not the ones I walked 20 years ago. I can not believe this asset has sat so unused, it almost makes me rage! In the early 90s that place was wall to wall girls… Selling the property would have only crippled our council more! They seem to have decided to limit this camp’s success… Mismanagement all around… But they better never try to sell it again. It belongs to all of us, not just one exec trying to salvage their job after their incompetence! Oooh… I gotta go before I get like MAD mad. CJ *Sparkle*

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    1. By GSWAC-Amy (Post author) on

      I was at CME recently and saw the damage from the tornado that came through in 2020. A tree company came in and took down the damaged trees and was supposed to cull the other mature pines, but huge areas were completely cleared. It is very upsetting.

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